I just downloaded the new Mifflin scenery addition to Condor Flight
Sim. I have never flown out of Mifflin in real life (yet-...must
rework the Lak-12 trailer...). I took a ASW-22 up for a flight and
recognised many terrain features from my favorite soaring movie "A
Fine Week of Soaring". The best one being the notch in the ridge on
approach to the airport.

If you have not tried Condor it is simply the best soaring simulator
out there.

http://www.condorsoaring.com/

The Mifflin scenery is located here:

http://www.speedbattle.com/downloads.php?lang=en

Racing can be found anytime here:

http://www.condorsoaring.com/serverlist.php

Right now they are running a "virtual contest" with the real Handweide
contest.

http://hww07.hahnweide.com/en/participants.php

Lucky Klassen wrote:
> I just downloaded the new Mifflin scenery addition to Condor Flight
> Sim. I have never flown out of Mifflin in real life (yet-...must
> rework the Lak-12 trailer...). I took a ASW-22 up for a flight and
> recognised many terrain features from my favorite soaring movie "A
> Fine Week of Soaring". The best one being the notch in the ridge on
> approach to the airport.
>
> If you have not tried Condor it is simply the best soaring simulator
> out there.
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/
>
> The Mifflin scenery is located here:
>
> http://www.speedbattle.com/downloads.php?lang=en
>
> Racing can be found anytime here:
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/serverlist.php
>
> Right now they are running a "virtual contest" with the real Handweide
> contest.
>
> http://hww07.hahnweide.com/en/participants.php
>


That reminded me that I wanted to buy Condor -which I tried to do, unsuccessfully.

Has anybody else been having trouble with the Condor paymwent gateway or is this
personal?

Bruce

On May 16, 10:28 am, Bruce > wrote:
> Lucky Klassen wrote:
> > I just downloaded the new Mifflin scenery addition to Condor Flight
> > Sim. I have never flown out of Mifflin in real life (yet-...must
> > rework the Lak-12 trailer...). I took a ASW-22 up for a flight and
> > recognised many terrain features from my favorite soaring movie "A
> > Fine Week of Soaring". The best one being the notch in the ridge on
> > approach to the airport.
>
> > If you have not tried Condor it is simply the best soaring simulator
> > out there.
>
> >http://www.condorsoaring.com/
>
> > The Mifflin scenery is located here:
>
> >http://www.speedbattle.com/downloads.php?lang=en
>
> > Racing can be found anytime here:
>
> >http://www.condorsoaring.com/serverlist.php
>
> > Right now they are running a "virtual contest" with the real Handweide
> > contest.
>
> >http://hww07.hahnweide.com/en/participants.php
>
> That reminded me that I wanted to buy Condor -which I tried to do, unsuccessfully.
>
> Has anybody else been having trouble with the Condor paymwent gateway or is this
> personal?
>
> Bruce

Picked up a copy about a month ago without problems.

Frank

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> Lucky Klassen wrote:
>> I just downloaded the new Mifflin scenery addition to Condor Flight
>> Sim. I have never flown out of Mifflin in real life (yet-...must
<...>
> That reminded me that I wanted to buy Condor -which I tried to do,
> unsuccessfully.
>
> Has anybody else been having trouble with the Condor paymwent gateway or
> is this personal?
>
> Bruce

Didn't work for me either (a few months ago).

--
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The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
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Condor has upgraded their servers over the last few weeks. It's possible
some payment links are broken. Send them an e-mail

Bill Daniels


"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com> wrote in message
news:BeGdnTWQTIOd7dbbnZ2dnUVZ_rWnnZ2d@wideopenwest .com...
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Lucky Klassen wrote:
>>> I just downloaded the new Mifflin scenery addition to Condor Flight
>>> Sim. I have never flown out of Mifflin in real life (yet-...must
> <...>
>> That reminded me that I wanted to buy Condor -which I tried to do,
>> unsuccessfully.
>>
>> Has anybody else been having trouble with the Condor paymwent gateway or
>> is this personal?
>>
>> Bruce
>
> Didn't work for me either (a few months ago).
>
> --
> Geoff
> The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
> remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
> When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.
>

Lucky Klassen wrote:
> I just downloaded the new Mifflin scenery addition to Condor Flight
> Sim. I have never flown out of Mifflin in real life (yet-...must
> rework the Lak-12 trailer...). I took a ASW-22 up for a flight and
> recognised many terrain features from my favorite soaring movie "A
> Fine Week of Soaring". The best one being the notch in the ridge on
> approach to the airport.
>
> If you have not tried Condor it is simply the best soaring simulator
> out there.
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/
>
> The Mifflin scenery is located here:
>
> http://www.speedbattle.com/downloads.php?lang=en
>
> Racing can be found anytime here:
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/serverlist.php
>
> Right now they are running a "virtual contest" with the real Handweide
> contest.
>
> http://hww07.hahnweide.com/en/participants.php
>
Contact your credit card company and let them now you're trying to make
a foreign purchase if you're credit card isn't working. I assume you're
in the US-we're all Mericans here aren't we ;-)
That's what it took for me in Jan.


Shawn

Condor uses Share*It for payment processing and electronic delivery.
Share*It's payment processing servers are actually in Germany since
this is a German based company and they seem to have problems at times
with their system rejecting international transactions even when your
bank says that they didn't block anything or never even received a
transaction request.

I didn't have any problems purchasing Condor but when I got a new
license key for SeeYou (Naviter uses Share*It as well) I had all kinds
of problems with my (US) credit card being denied even after I called
my bank to make sure that they didn't block the transaction for
whatever security reason. I eventually managed to get the payment
through using a different (US) card from a different bank.

Try a different card and have a word with your bank to make sure that
they didn't block it because of a German IP address requesting the
transaction. It can get pretty frustrating if you are trying to do a
simple and fully legitimate $50 transaction and end up fighting global
fraud protection routines on several levels...

Markus

Markus Graeber wrote:
> Condor uses Share*It for payment processing and electronic delivery.
> Share*It's payment processing servers are actually in Germany since
> this is a German based company and they seem to have problems at times
> with their system rejecting international transactions even when your
> bank says that they didn't block anything or never even received a
> transaction request.
>
> I didn't have any problems purchasing Condor but when I got a new
> license key for SeeYou (Naviter uses Share*It as well) I had all kinds
> of problems with my (US) credit card being denied even after I called
> my bank to make sure that they didn't block the transaction for
> whatever security reason. I eventually managed to get the payment
> through using a different (US) card from a different bank.
>
> Try a different card and have a word with your bank to make sure that
> they didn't block it because of a German IP address requesting the
> transaction. It can get pretty frustrating if you are trying to do a
> simple and fully legitimate $50 transaction and end up fighting global
> fraud protection routines on several levels...
>
> Markus
>
I'm in South Africa. Regularly transact this way - my card provider knows this.

As Shawn surmised it is the card company's fraud protection/money laundering bit
that is not working. It demands a CSP registration - both on cards that have
active CSP, and one that does not - links through to the local bank to activate
CSP, and then it dies.

It appears to be a Mastercard+ShareIt thing, they are not registered CSP
protected vendors, but either their payment gateway, or the local bank is
demanding it. Had no problem a couple of months back when I upgraded See you,
but things might have changed.

Will test with another international provider. Any excuse to buy more toys.

Condor is the best gliding simulator available. Besides being a fun
alternative on rainy winter days condor may have real training
potential. The feel of competition and XC soaring is conveyed very
well in many aspects. The direct comparison to the people you are
flying against quickly show the high kost of useless circles or flying
poor lift. Beginners with condor competition experience will probably
be more aware of their real life mistakes and learn more quickly. The
MacReady theorie plays an important role in condor and therefore
offers an alternative training method to real life flying (It should
be kept in mind that the MacReady theorie plays a more important role
in condor than in real life).

To me the NMEA output of condor offers the highest training potential.
I use GPS_Log on my PDA and find it very helpful to be able to test
different settings with realistic input data. If you come across a
problem you can easily press pause and read up on it in the manual.
This has greatly raised my confidence in the data made available in
the PDA because I now now what the effect of different settings have
and do not get unexpected readings anymore.

Condor also has its limits. The pure feel and joy of flying will never
be simulated. The weather models are missing all the little subtleties
which make real life flying so interesting. One of the most beautiful
things in real life soaring is that you always see something new, no
two flights are ever the same. This is something condor is far from
being able to simulate.

On May 16, 1:18 pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
> On May 16, 10:28 am, Bruce > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Lucky Klassen wrote:
> > > I just downloaded the new Mifflin scenery addition to Condor Flight
> > > Sim. I have never flown out of Mifflin in real life (yet-...must
> > > rework the Lak-12 trailer...). I took a ASW-22 up for a flight and
> > > recognised many terrain features from my favorite soaring movie "A
> > > Fine Week of Soaring". The best one being the notch in the ridge on
> > > approach to the airport.
>
> > > If you have not tried Condor it is simply the best soaring simulator
> > > out there.
>
> > >http://www.condorsoaring.com/
>
> > > The Mifflin scenery is located here:
>
> > >http://www.speedbattle.com/downloads.php?lang=en
>
> > > Racing can be found anytime here:
>
> > >http://www.condorsoaring.com/serverlist.php
>
> > > Right now they are running a "virtual contest" with the real Handweide
> > > contest.
>
> > >http://hww07.hahnweide.com/en/participants.php
>
> > That reminded me that I wanted to buy Condor -which I tried to do, unsuccessfully.
>
> > Has anybody else been having trouble with the Condor paymwent gateway or is this
> > personal?
>
> > Bruce
>
> Picked up a copy about a month ago without problems.
>
> Frank

BTW, I used PayPal

Frank

"Frank Whiteley" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On May 16, 1:18 pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
>> On May 16, 10:28 am, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>
<...>>
>> Picked up a copy about a month ago without problems.
>>
>> Frank
>
> BTW, I used PayPal
>
> Frank
>

DOOHH!!!

Why didn't I think of that!

That worked just fine. I even had some money left in the Pay Pal account...

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

Frank Whiteley wrote:
> On May 16, 1:18 pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
>
>>On May 16, 10:28 am, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Lucky Klassen wrote:
>>>
>>>>I just downloaded the new Mifflin scenery addition to Condor Flight
>>>>Sim. I have never flown out of Mifflin in real life (yet-...must
>>>>rework the Lak-12 trailer...). I took a ASW-22 up for a flight and
>>>>recognised many terrain features from my favorite soaring movie "A
>>>>Fine Week of Soaring". The best one being the notch in the ridge on
>>>>approach to the airport.
>>
>>>>If you have not tried Condor it is simply the best soaring simulator
>>>>out there.
>>
>>>>http://www.condorsoaring.com/
>>
>>>>The Mifflin scenery is located here:
>>
>>>>http://www.speedbattle.com/downloads.php?lang=en
>>
>>>>Racing can be found anytime here:
>>
>>>>http://www.condorsoaring.com/serverlist.php
>>
>>>>Right now they are running a "virtual contest" with the real Handweide
>>>>contest.
>>
>>>>http://hww07.hahnweide.com/en/participants.php
>>
>>>That reminded me that I wanted to buy Condor -which I tried to do, unsuccessfully.
>>
>>>Has anybody else been having trouble with the Condor paymwent gateway or is this
>>>personal?
>>
>>>Bruce
>>
>>Picked up a copy about a month ago without problems.
>>
>>Frank
>
>
> BTW, I used PayPal
>
> Frank
>
Resorted to Fax...

"alex8735" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Condor is the best gliding simulator available. Besides being a fun
> alternative on rainy winter days condor may have real training
> potential. The feel of competition and XC soaring is conveyed very
> well in many aspects. The direct comparison to the people you are
> flying against quickly show the high kost of useless circles or flying
> poor lift. Beginners with condor competition experience will probably
> be more aware of their real life mistakes and learn more quickly. The
> MacReady theorie plays an important role in condor and therefore
> offers an alternative training method to real life flying (It should
> be kept in mind that the MacReady theorie plays a more important role
> in condor than in real life).
>

Hey! I'd be happy to just stay behind the #$@&* towplane!!!

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.